POWER

tullah · **Joined:** September 9th, 2010, 6:33 pm **Posts:** 119

Bob/iON/James/Carolyn/Ed/ANYBODY out there/anywhere/anytime/anyplace:

As we all know, different words have different meanings to different people and though we may THINK we know what something means, sometimes we end up worlds apart when it comes to the actual reality.

Having said that,

Can somebody please explain what it actually means to "come into your power"?

Is it the same for everybody or is it different?

How do you KNOW you have it?

How do you know when someone else has "it"?

Once you've "got it" does it stick or can you lose it?

In the iONic descriptor, are there degrees of Power? (like becoming a mason with all their bloody "degrees" and levels of separation?
or does one size fit all?
(obviously we are talking about a different kind of POWER than what we associate with "worldly" power which can be lost as fast as it was gained...or ARE we??)

Is coming into your power the same thing as or connected to the idea of "ascension"?

Is this strictly an individual thing or does it occur collectively a well?

Is it strictly a "do it yourself" proposition, (by the sweat of thy brow)
or could for example, Tinkerbell, wave her magic wand and POOOF...now you've got it, my son,
"Go forth and be POWERFUL!"?

I would love to see some discourse/intercourse/discussion/enlightenment/focus upon/around this topic, since POWER seems to be a powerful (sorry-somebody had to say it) "buzzz word" around here...

How do we know that we are all talking about the same thing?

or maybe this is all a bit todo about nothing?
Maybe we already have it and just forgot or don't KNOW that we've got it?

(we know but don't know that we know...)

not trying to be the new "Ron" here buggering you with a gazillion silly questions,
but I do think these are valid issues that should be of interest to everyone

Thanks guys,

free hugs for all

Tullah

Chad · **Joined:** May 2nd, 2010, 8:59 am **Posts:** 136

tullah wrote:

Bob/iON/James/Carolyn/Ed/ANYBODY out there/anywhere/anytime/anyplace:

As we all know, different words have different meanings to different people and though we may THINK we know what something means, sometimes we end up worlds apart when it comes to the actual reality.

Having said that,

Can somebody please explain what it actually means to "come into your power"?

Not holding anyone else responsible for you.
Knowing that your words create/evoke your experience.

tullah wrote:

Is it the same for everybody or is it different?

Here is one example:
http://resonantnode.com/ion/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=382&p=4070#p4070

tullah wrote:

How do you KNOW you have it?

You stop trying to hold others (people, government, money) responsible for your manifestations.

tullah wrote:

How do you know when someone else has "it"?

You will be too busy enjoying yourself to notice if anyone else has "it" or to sort out the good ones from the bad ones.

tullah wrote:

Once you've "got it" does it stick or can you lose it?

It sticks and you keep fine-tuning it for greater constancy of bliss. You can give your power away. That's how you lost it in the first place.

tullah wrote:

In the iONic descriptor, are there degrees of Power? (like becoming a mason with all their bloody "degrees" and levels of separation?
or does one size fit all?
(obviously we are talking about a different kind of POWER than what we associate with "worldly" power which can be lost as fast as it was gained...or ARE we??)

The degrees of separation include: who?, what?, why?, when?, where?, how?
Taking one's power is a smooth, easy transition rather than quantified levels or stages. However, iON does mention "7 layers of heaven".

tullah wrote:

Is coming into your power the same thing as or connected to the idea of "ascension"?

Is this strictly an individual thing or does it occur collectively a well?

Is it strictly a "do it yourself" proposition, (by the sweat of thy brow)
or could for example, Tinkerbell, wave her magic wand and POOOF...now you've got it, my son,
"Go forth and be POWERFUL!"?

You can to take your power by deciding that no other being has authority to give you your power.

tullah wrote:

How do we know that we are all talking about the same thing?

or maybe this is all a bit todo about nothing?

Search for the phrase "drama of cognition" on this forum and see posts where Bob and myself discuss this topic.

Chad

Margarita · **Joined:** May 8th, 2010, 10:19 pm **Posts:** 105

Excellent topic, tullah! and I happily accept your hugs and I send mine to you too!
I love this topic, and I believed I can contribute from my place of knowing, at the level where I am right now at this moment, but of course it will evolve and change as I move along.

tullah wrote:

Bob/iON/James/Carolyn/Ed/ANYBODY out there/anywhere/anytime/anyplace:

As we all know, different words have different meanings to different people and though we may THINK we know what something means, sometimes we end up worlds apart when it comes to the actual reality.

M: I think so, specially if people come from different cultures and grew up with a different language, Also the intention behind your words are important. I don’t know what you mean by “actual reality” because reality is relative/sujective and it tends to be different in the eyes of the beholder

Having said that,

Can somebody please explain what it actually means to "come into your power"?

M: It means a lot of things, some of the examples are that you activate your source energy force, and put it to work to your advantage; you come to a point that you are able to merge your physical and your non-physical; also, you finally overcome yourself, meaning that sometimes your worse enemy is the laby of your mind, therefore, you overcome or conquer your degrees of separation, no more questions asked because you don't think, you just simply Know. You also will get over of trying to be right and start getting busy being happy, so you don't care about what others are doing or not doing; you start living in the now, your middle kingdom, in a way of a merging of your three kingdoms, the outer doesn’t affect you anymore, and inner, your feelings and emotions becomes un-hearable. You also starting to recognized the difference between power and authority. You recognized your responsibility in all your creations, and you ceased blaming others for your happiness. And there is much more, but all this is in the Revelations Revealed. I'm not done with all of chapters yet.

Is it the same for everybody or is it different?

M: There are like "benchmarks" on the levels of ascension or layers of heaven that we all go through that are the same for everybody, but "coming into your own individual place of power" will mean different things to different people, because it is according to your own personal aspirations and actually manifesting or realizing your former unrealized creations here, in the physical (famous singer, successful business owner, etc.)

How do you KNOW you have it?

M: you will recognize it. And you will not care about what other think about you. Also, check Chad's soliloquy for this.

How do you know when someone else has "it"?

M: Look at GAGA. It will become obvious, it will irritate others that they would want to cannibalize you or crucified you, while others will bow to you because you will shine and you will become irresistible.

Once you've "got it" does it stick or can you lose it?

M: If you allow it, you can loose it, it is called "Second Death", because you decide to separate again from yourself.

In the iONic descriptor, are there degrees of Power? (like becoming a mason with all their bloody "degrees" and levels of separation?
or does one size fit all?

M: Levels of ascension.

(obviously we are talking about a different kind of POWER than what we associate with "worldly" power which can be lost as fast as it was gained...or ARE we??)

M: Power you already have it, it is the pure positive source energy that you activate and access. I don't know what you mean by "worldly power" but I will associate this with authority gained, obtained or given.

Is coming into your power the same thing as or connected to the idea of "ascension"?

M: yes, I believed so. All of this is in the chapters of Revelations Revealed. I highly recommend you go listen to all chapters

Is this strictly an individual thing or does it occur collectively a well?

M: Coming into your power it is always at the individual level

Is it strictly a "do it yourself" proposition, (by the sweat of thy brow)
or could for example, Tinkerbell, wave her magic wand and POOOF...now you've got it, my son,
"Go forth and be POWERFUL!"?

M: It is by your own effort. If it is given, it is authority, because POWER is not given, you already have it, just need to know how to fully activate it. When you come into your power, it is self-empowerment. However, you can have power and authority, but it is important that you don't get entangle in your authority that you have obtained or given.

I would love to see some discourse/intercourse/discussion/enlightenment/focus upon/around this topic, since POWER seems to be a powerful (sorry-somebody had to say it) "buzzz word" around here...

How do we know that we are all talking about the same thing?
or maybe this is all a bit todo about nothing?

Maybe we already have it and just forgot or don't KNOW that we've got it?
(we know but don't know that we know...)
M: yeap! I agree

not trying to be the new "Ron" here buggering you with a gazillion silly questions,
but I do think these are valid issues that should be of interest to everyone

M: No, great questions. Thank you

Thanks guys,

free hugs for all

Tullah

Of course there is more to “coming into your power” and POWER, and I'm leaving room for others if they would like to jump in to add up or clean-up. A lot of your questions will be answered in the chapters of Revelations Revealed. That, and much more.

margarita

Legend · **Posted:** September 25th, 2010, 1:49 am

Revelations Revealed - is that available on the howionic website for a purchase ? Does iON go through the entire book of Revelations ?

Legend · **Posted:** September 25th, 2010, 3:25 am

Chad and/or Margarita good dialogue, would you clear up a thought I've had concerning this please : Chad wrote "You stop trying to hold others (people, government, money) responsible for your manifestations."

Now if one was so inclined to choose involvement in a cause (breast cancer awareness, helping the poor, charitable fund raising, church activities, green peace, politics, etc.) they choose to be involved because they believe it will make a difference and/or its the "RIGHT" thing to do; however, iON suggest to not have a "dog in the fight"- let it go- its much better to BE happy than "RIGHT" - So for instance, if the swat team is pounding down your door to confiscate your weapons and violate the Bill of Rights - or big brother is tapping your phones, reading your emails - or you smell some sort of real bullshit (the stench is all over)- do you stand up and say "Fuck Off" or you let it go and not be consumed, bothered, or give attention to those who trespass with disregard or government impunity- against the power of a sovereign lord ascended in their all-knowing. So the question remains- is it ok not to want to change things or make things better when one can see lies, deception, false advertising, monopolies, corruption across the board on an everyday basis- just relax and allow and cover your own ass ? Only think of the things you want ?

Let me paraphrase this question again please - is there a reward or purpose in wanting to stand up and change circumstances - or is it better left unsaid and leave the argueing, bickering, wars, politics to those fighting for or over authority to those so inclined ? Thats where is gets a little grey - can you teach iONism 101 ? (how to tell the difference between authority and power ?)

That I suppose is the crux of my slight dilemna - I always see an immediate cause for change in almost every circumstance (how things could, should, or would be IF) - yet does it really matter when you have your power ?

Chad · **Joined:** May 2nd, 2010, 8:59 am **Posts:** 136

Legend wrote:

Chad and/or Margarita good dialogue, would you clear up a thought I've had concerning this please : Chad wrote "You stop trying to hold others (people, government, money) responsible for your manifestations."

Now if one was so inclined to choose involvement in a cause (breast cancer awareness, helping the poor, charitable fund raising, church activities, green peace, politics, etc.) they choose to be involved because they believe it will make a difference and/or its the "RIGHT" thing to do; however, iON suggest to not have a "dog in the fight"- let it go- its much better to BE happy than "RIGHT" - So for instance, if the swat team is pounding down your door to confiscate your weapons and violate the Bill of Rights - or big brother is tapping your phones, reading your emails - or you smell some sort of real bullshit (the stench is all over)- do you stand up and say "Fuck Off" or you let it go and not be consumed, bothered, or give attention to those who trespass with disregard or government impunity- against the power of a sovereign lord ascended in their all-knowing. So the question remains- is it ok not to want to change things or make things better when one can see lies, deception, false advertising, monopolies, corruption across the board on an everyday basis- just relax and allow and cover your own ass ? Only think of the things you want ?

Let me paraphrase this question again please - is there a reward or purpose in wanting to stand up and change circumstances - or is it better left unsaid and leave the argueing, bickering, wars, politics to those fighting for or over authority to those so inclined ? Thats where is gets a little grey - can you teach iONism 101 ? (how to tell the difference between authority and power ?)

That I suppose is the crux of my slight dilemna - I always see an immediate cause for change in almost every circumstance (how things could, should, or would be IF) - yet does it really matter when you have your power ?

Big Brother, etc. are just the after-image of the Android Meme making you believe there is still a form of control.

Chad

tullah · **Joined:** September 9th, 2010, 6:33 pm **Posts:** 119

WOW thank you guys so much!!
(Chad and Margarita).
I was really surprised to find some actual dialogued response.
It is greatly appreciated and makes me so happy! :-)

thank you thank you thank you!!!

I was really expecting to see some cryptic boob-tube greatful dead toe-jam punk rock-snot rap crap trap WTF is THAT supposed to mean baloney that would just leave me wondering once again what planet I just dropped in to, or from, and how I ended up here! :-Q

(not to knock you "tubers"- it does have it's place in the mongoloid mean and hebralite annuknockian dailectic, BUT sometimes just a straight answer will do nicely thank you.) :-)

I had a reading with iON and I didn't even get the damned t-shirt!?!

I was sicker than a dawg w food poisoning for several days last week and used the down time to over indulge in all things iOnic ...which does have a tendency to topple everything you thought you knew....lots of sacred cows are led to the slaughter no? and this stuff is not for the faint of heart.

So yeah, I know that I know all this stuff, but just get a little lost sometimes

Your gleanings do help and I like seeing different perspectives and sharing in this way
I shall read and re-read to be sure....

seems like the middle kingdom is the place to be (the middle path?)
and yes yes YES

M.C. in "Light on the Path" said

"make no judgements
make no comparisons
delete the need to know why"

I think Jesus' comment of "kill your mother and father" refers to cutting yourself free of all the negative programming that does not serve-
I know that when I stop and look and try to determine where this or that came from (in my ways of seeing and being in the world) it usually can be traced back to the ingrained programming and biases that were instilled by family, community, church and/or society at large.

We only think that we think, whereas many times it's simply programmed response and, we the sheeple, are so worried about what everybody else thinks that we become our own worst enemy.
As David Icke says, we police ourselves by being afraid of what granny will think or what Fred and Ethel down the street might say ...."Oh my, we can't have that now can we?...Better fall in line ..dont want to be DIFFERENT do we?" lol

Thanks again everybody

onward and upward

Mega Hugs for all ,

(may not be as jiggy as "slurping a slippery pussie at Coyote Ugly" but, hey,
maybe I'm just a boring kind of mega god/magnificent creator being on safari here on this speck o splendor we call Earth-school!)
:-)

ciao

Tullah

I'll have to check out Revelations Revealed
thanks for the tip Margarita

tayzay · **Posted:** September 25th, 2010, 5:41 pm

Legend wrote:

Revelations Revealed - is that available on the howionic website for a purchase ? Does iON go through the entire book of Revelations ?

? Yes.
? Yes, and much more follows Chapter 22.

I say, "it's when the rubber meets the road!"
Get your 'Moxie" and put Your pedal to the metal.

xox
TayZay

rhyee · **Joined:** April 21st, 2010, 1:33 pm **Posts:** 1018

chad wrote:

Search for the phrase "drama of cognition" on this forum and see posts where Bob and myself discuss this topic.
Chad

BOB: Some postings by Chad:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=323

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=286

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=298&p=3667#p3667

search.php?author_id=97&sr=posts

Bob Neveritt

tullah · **Joined:** September 9th, 2010, 6:33 pm **Posts:** 119

OMG I checked out the Revelations revealed thing, but at 50 bucks a pop, I'm afraid it is not something I am able to indulge in at the moment.

When did iON become a cash cow and Bob the "Golden Guru"?
Especially when they have but to wave their magic wand and have money falling like leaves off of all the trees?

I just don't understand why everything has to revolve around money?
When did commerce and consumerism become our new gods?

Tullah

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