Legend wrote:
...the guy in the video was only demonstrating resonating his energy
(lining up a freaquency); the spiritual gifts as they develop and become more predominant
in our society will come in a broad range of scope I believe;...
I'm with you. Different folks will engage different experiences.
That's nice, but I would say not to give anyone else too much consideration.
There is a potential there to limit your own experiences.
If you see someone doing something you would like to engage, that's one thing,
but there is always the risk, with certain folks, of making a value judgment, or
limiting one's potentialities to that which is under observation.
The field is wide open.
What other people are engaging has nothing to do with you.
Legend wrote:
...and do you actively pursue (use words to request or define or accept) any spiritual
gift ?
or just allow this to develop under its own accord with no ambition of presumption ?
if so then you've resolved yourself to this unveiling with no pursuit ? if you have a request
to know, then you must ask with words, thoughts and thinking ? and you shall recieve ?
or this will all be bestowed with knewing and no exertion ?
...
You're exactly right. All will be known / knew. Thought and knowing are two
different things.
We are, however, for the sake of this conversation, engaging from a place of
not knowing.
My response to "Do you actively pursue a spiritual gift?" is no. Your so-called
spiritual gifts are here, now. You're already engaging them.
The icing on the cake that is being added to this experience, is that we're going
to be engaging all of these gifts here and now, in the physical, with full awareness
and control.
You're just allowing a merging to occur, so they can bloom. No pursuit or endeavor
necessary.
If you ask iON, he's obviously going to respond in some form, because we desire his
engagement through this process, but the information / data that is presented will
likely go into your mental repository.
It will likely not get you from A to B (
Edit to clarify this statement: the information
gathering is not knowing. However, engaging with iON is paramount as your process unfolds,
because not only is it a blast, but iON can work out the kinks as you expand, thus aiding
your expansion.
Also, the direct, palpable, non-verbal side of a personal engagement with iON will profoundly
affect you, physically, on a fundamental level. This aspect of that direct engagement
cannot be overstated).
It's a process, and it's not a process of exerting oneself, or making effort in one
direction or another, but rather a process of magnetizing that which we desire to
experience.
iON can clarify if speaking is required or not, but to me, everything you desire is
there, waiting for you, and this process of unfolding is manifesting it to you, little
by little.
iON would ask, anyway, if I may be so bold, "To whom are you asking? You're
asking yourself. Don't fret. You already knew, and it's already happening."
Legend wrote:
...when Bob pontificates on McLuhan observations and opinions or develops new
products, he is "thinking" how to clearly define his thoughts and implement his ideas
(that's probably why he cant recall his parallel world jaunts and has an on going
debate with iON regarding the defining of this process); also why he traveled to
demonstrate and alert or present this new horizon to his constituents; therefore, it
is ambiguous to use the words "dont think" - in order to manifest ones creations, a
thought must propel the idea- promulgated by words- wait hold on -their are no rules...
Just a quick response to your last statement (immediately above) before I go on
(seemingly, endlessly).
Yes, iON has said, we can have a thought about something we desire to engage,
and we can speak / create based on that desire.
This doesn't necessarily need to be the case, but yes, you can think of something,
as most people do, and speak / create it.
You can't not think. It's a natural, spontaneous and endless process.
I think Bob asked iON one time (paraphrasing), "If we just say any word, without a
thought or notion of the meaning of that word, would that word create?"
iON responded, "Yes."
So, if you said, "Harfleflump!" You would create that thing. The question then becomes,
What form will that creation take? hahaa
It's interesting. Speaking creates always and forever, without fail or exception, anything
spoken.
There are no limitations. At all.
And iON, I believe, has said he would prefer if we had no mind. We do fine without it.
Moving on...
Legend wrote:
...
In addition, when you write or say the words "dont think" - do you correlate that with
indifference or discernment or both ? can you describe the process of manifesting your
creations without thinking ? or maybe "dont think" equals "dont worry or push"
...
You're right again. Don't think means don't push against (and don't worry).
It also means don't start applying thoughts to every experience, because
you'll get tangled up and start down a rabbit hole.
The statement, "Don't think" is meaningless. It doesn't work if one tries to
apply it, so it requires further clarification.
Thought isn't a problem in and of itself. It's our application, or misapplication
of it.
Indifference, or detachment are appropriate perspectives. At some point,
we gave credence to thought itself over experience, and that's where
we got crossways.
All that is required is not to get tangled up with thought, trying to apply
it to experience / reality. Thought isn't reality and thought cannot approach
our experiences / reality.
But you can play with thought, and thoughts about an experience might
compel you to speak / create that experience, but in and of itself, it cannot
affect reality, and more often than not is limiting.
It's just a tool to get us through our day to day activities, or to communicate
with others.
iON would be happy if we got rid of the mind. Ain't helping us.
The drops allow this to occur by default.
It may seem a non sequitur that not thinking and simply getting out of our
own way - not getting involved and working at something - will allow all of
our birthrights, in manner of speaking, to flow, freely and easily, but that's
the way it works.
The mind wants to get in the way and run things, so, a proper perspective
is appropriate.
Getting the labyrinth out of the equation just means you want to engage and
enjoy your experiences without trying to define, explain or pick everything apart,
which is our reflective tendency...
The thought issue will take care of itself. You'll get to a point where this is
crystal clear.
I've found after being on the drops for a while, that I'm engaging in actions
without thinking at all.
It seems that I'm doing things more efficiently, and accurately, etc., and
I'm often not even aware of the thinking process. At least, not until
I've stopped and I'm reflecting on what's occurred.
It's like the computer is effortlessly doing its job, with me out of the way, and
not trying to plug it in and make toast with it...
iON has likened the mind / thought to a processor that we've attempted to
use for purposes for which it wasn't designed.
We've tried to apply thought to our experiences / reality, when it cannot and
does not apply. It's a game.
Bob plays with thought all day. We all use thought as a practical means of
engaging our daily activities, lining up meetings with other people, etc., or
as a means of entertainment.
Bob's approach to thought (which he was unable to apply, as he tried to
place biblical events in some sort of chronological (i.e., logical, linear) order)
is to playfully engage, turn over and explore it from a detached position.
This is the correct approach.
We can also have a thought about something we would like to engage, and
give that notion more intention, and then speak as we wish it to manifest.
No harm, no foul.
We get cross with ourselves when we grab and hold onto a thought and ride
it like a bucking bull for all its worth (i.e., a belief).
Other than that, no problem.
Legend wrote:
a lot of wordy words trying to describe this transition we've all identified with or is it
an impasse before collosal change, or a calm before the storm, or a delicious new horizon
of unparalleled human potential exposed, uniting the unknown with those who embrace it
with the unseen; the cookie is crumbling, and the dough is rising.
...
I know. I'm always making noise...I enjoy the pastime...
It's all of the above, and none of them.
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