Dupes of Non-Physical

Higherlight - I unsuccessfully tried to find the post you referred to. Would you please be so kind as to copy & paste here or direct us to it. Thanks & have a glorious day!

I'm gonna try to do the same myself. This weekend has had me coming up against some deep seeded rules I've carried around for a very long time, which I thought had served me well but am beginning to see maybe not so much. Though confronting them has been challenging & heart wrenching, at the same time, it has also liberating and freeing.

This is most definitely something I have learned from all this ION stuff - to more clearly see how our patterns & rule systems direct so much of what we do in daily life whether or not we have any awareness of it all.

Ok, some say Sheila caused the volcano, Califia caused some wild stock market swings, Faberge wiped out the Miami Herald and Scott's going to be the first person to have a book written by a Sasquatch stenographer...

Well, I might have wiped out this week's Tailgate Party!

BOB: I'm going to respond with some "facts", MLC, and I don't mean this BAD, but I mean it.:

Last week's Tailgate Party was not wiped out by you, me, Carolyn, iON, or anybody. iON actually spoke on the Tailgate gathering at one point many hours into it. And I received a note from Aussie James that the free conference-call report said our iON phone number listened for many hours. The point is, one cannot say what iON is going to do or not do. There will be no determination of the status of anything pertaining to iON, in my opinion. So stay tuned... and we don't promise any schedules with iON.

This past Sunday I read the following excerpt from a book written by another group who play with their own set of non-physical channeled entities.

BOB: iON is not "channeled entities" so there is no comparison available on that level.

The passage hit home and I debated posting it that very day. When I mentioned it to Bob, he suggested I post it and comment on the fact that ION should be used as our butler and not our be-all end-all go to source of all information.

BOB: By "butler" applied to iON, I mean the "be-all end-all" TRANSPORTER of all information, not the SOURCE of all information. Just ask the Queen about her butlers.


"We are trying to tell you something important and you keep asking questions.

BOB: Inadequate statement!! (if one is comparing to iON). iON is not trying to TELL us anything: note the careful planting here and there of the word "phatic" by iON.

Now, please, silence for a moment!

We have told you many times to communicate with each other and network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and PROGRESS! But, you are beginning to rely on us for all your answers, and you do not LEARN that way!!!!!!

BOB: Inadequate statement!! iON would not have us LEARN anything. If the concept applies to iON at all, iON is helping us UNLEARN a lot.

Now, try this, you will be thunderstruck with the results: Each of you has stored within you unlimited amounts of factual and "Earth-shaking" information. This information was put into your consciousness

BOB: iON refuses to acknowledge the word "consciousness" as a thing or process. That is a more intriguing suggestion by iON than anything proposed by your quotation above.

in order for you to retrieve it in order for you to learn. Now just start by holding a discussion about the last series of questions you were trying to ask us, and "let it flow".

Isn't that timely in light of this week's cancellation of the formal tail gate party?

BOB: If you agree with my statements above, then "timely" is the least appropriate adverb.

Yes, like I said on Cash Flow, it is bullshit we got the news at the very last second. Total bullshit.

BOB: Don't even assume that iON will show up on CASH FLOW. That's why we have archives - to avoid the accusation that someone's schedule is violated. With iON one lives not in the NOW but in an EXPANDED NOW-ing...

BUT, aside from that last minute news, it really was a great opportunity for us to connect on our own. We even had 6 straight hours of not hearing the name McLuhan once! Isn't that heavenly in itself?

BOB: That may be "heavenly" but it isn't practical. (Now this is going to surprise everyone.) There is not one principle or pattern iON has said that wasn't said by McLuhan before iON. One wouldn't know this unless one had encountered a great deal of McLuhan's published work. And this becomes very interesting if one considers the fact that McLuhan was one of the greatest "minds", if not the greatest, of the second half of the 20th Century.

I am the world's foremost expert on McLuhan next to his son, Eric. So let's consider this mosaic:

iON doesn't create. iON gets its words from us. Carolyn and I happened to be the first humans or creators iON encountered in the physical. So iON got their words from us. We got a lot of our words from McLuhan as applied to specific themes of verbal expression. So iON got these words from McLuhan. Now this wasn't obvious to us in the first hours of talking to iON. But after about 6 months I started to get a glimpse of iON's "big picture" and that is when we realized it was McLuhanesque (but one has to know what McLuhan said to perceive that fact). You may be right, MLC. We just might be DUPES of BOB here!!

What would have happened if iON got their words first from a Marxist, a Catholic, or a terrorist?

So, MLC, you can see why I do a lot of chuckling on CASH FLOW and Tailgate as people make comments such as yours. I'm not saying you're silly or ignorant, just that you haven't had the chance to hear as many hours of iON as we have. Totally understandable. I look forward to when you have caught up. Then we can have a fascinating discussion of the implications of the fact that iON is a comprehensive "McLuhanite". By the way, the Evergreens mentioned only one thinker when they described the next 100 years - Marshall McLuhan.

And, an additional commentary from the same book about the passage above is as follows...

"In and amongst our group, we learned gradually to implement this type of activity.

BOB: Inadequate statement!! iON says there is no "gradually".

Yes, it means that we have to put forth effort,

BOB: Inadequate statement!! I don't have to say why, do I?... any regular imbiber of iON gets my obvious point.

and much material must be researched and compared,

BOB: Inadequate statement!! iON is about "percepts" (direct experience) not "concepts" (researchable "material").

but it has strengthened our confidence in our abilities to evaluate and make choices based on hidden variables."

BOB: Inadequate statement!! With iON there is no "hidden", no subconscious, perhaps even no "variables". iON is radical!! iON is not into platitudes! iON is R&D!! (And I'm not referring to Robert Dobbs)

And, a participant wrote the following later on - I'm inserting the name ION in place of this source of channeled info so you can see the relevance...

"I am not setting up ION as another substitute for a guru or godhead or all-wise source of wisdom. I personally find much of great interest in what he has to say, and I have learned to look around me with more open eyes than before, but keeping in mind what he has taught me, I shall continue to make my own decisions and follow my own conscience and personal intuition on life, love, and the pursuit of happiness until I am wafted - wherever. Or left behind."

enough ? of what ? Woo Woo and Woo Wee - Embibers Delight in Delicious conconctions of Swirled Signals ? Bob D or is that an N, you frantically continue to search for the perfect description of a linear correlation between Marshall and iON without aknowledging it was inevitable anyway (ok Marshall was the first to publish such forsight - why not have iON channel Marshall on the next Tailgate show and we can barage him with questions ?) - but first answer these two simple questions please Bob-

BOB: I don't know what you're talking about here - you're gonna have to read my post a lot more astutely if you want to make relevant questions. For the latter part, iON brought MM through on a CASH FLOW a couple of months ago. Did you not hear it? It was in the first hour. His daughter, Mary, had a session with iON about a year ago and was very impressed. She's agreed to have a public conference with MM through iON. So has MM's assistant at the University of Toronto in the 70s.

a) iON is about "percepts" (direct experience) not "concepts" (researchable "material"). Therefore,
When and how will you continue to disclose, expose, cultivate, and disseminate the avalanche of experience that is to follow ? i.e. Humans turning into Giants (GODS) - This is still a small forum with limited testimoy - will you continue to be the Lid Lifter on the keg of TnT, or try to contain this prize fighter called iON until its too late with a private agenda ?

BOB: I don't have or even could have an agenda with iON.

b) Most Everyone's ESP is gradually being activated as we approach the moment of change (impact, understanding, acceptance, activation) - this leaves you no choice but to act quickly and return iON to his active circle - derailing him on a quest to "build a new civilization" will only curtail our attempts to establish a network of like minded participants - what is your current agenda with iON ?

Here is MM on ESP:

[[[[Electronics As E.S.P. VV-MM-Item 3

The content of writing is speech; but the content of speech is mental dance, non-verbal ESP. CB-MMHP-23

The extremely mobile individual consciousness of the print-oriented man now reverses into the tribal inertia of multi-consciousness. CA-MMWW-6

The new cult of ESP is a natural adjunct to telecommunications. When you put your nervous system outside as a world environment, ESP would seem to be rather "Plurabelle". CA-MMWW-40

MM- Electricity makes possible - and not in the distant future, either - an amplification of human consciousness on a world scale, without any verbalization at all.
Playboy- Are you talking about global telepathy?
MM- Precisely. Already, computers offer the potential of instantaneous translation of any code or language into any other code or language. If a data feedback is possible through the computer, why not a feed-forward of thought whereby a world consciousness links into a world computer? PL-MMEN-72

The present electric ESP age of multiple interfaces finds no problems in metamorphosis or transubstantiation such as baffled abcede-minded culture of the sixteenth century and after. CO-MM-82

The cavemen of Madison Avenue have begun to get sensitive to the ESP power of names to shape perception and to control energies. CO-MM-276

In the same way, the filling in of the gap between the old biological environment of our bodies and the new electric environment of our extended nervous system automatically evokes the world of ESP and LSD. CO-MM-180

When a man-made environment circumvents the entire planet, moon, and galaxy, there is no alternative to total knowledge programming of all human enterprise. Any form of imbalance proves fatal at electric speeds with the superpowers released by the new technological resources representing the full spectrum of the human senses and faculties. Survival now would seem to depend upon the extension of consciousness itself as an environment. This extension of consciousness has already begun with the computer and has been anticipated in our obsession with ESP and occult awareness. TT-MMBN-14

ESP IS OLD HAT WHEN EFFECTS PRECEDE CAUSES. The patterns of formerly hidden processes now begin to obtrude on every hand. Prescience, prophetic vision, and artistic awareness are no longer needed to establish an understanding of the most secret causes of personal and social processes. Mere electric speed-up makes X-ray awareness natural. Any administrator today is aware of his environment as a universal teaching machine. TT-MMBN-193

If there is, indeed, a terrible nihilism in the photo and a substitution of shadows for substance, then we are surely not the worse for knowing it. The technology of the photo is an extension of our own being and can be withdrawn from circulation like any other technology if we decide that it is virulent. But amputation of such extensions of our physical being calls for as much knowledge and skill as are prerequisite to any other physical amputation. UM-MM-173

It is this fragmentation that enables him (Western man) to ignore cause-and-effect in all interplay of technology and culture. It is quite different in Big Business. There, tribal man is on the alert for stray seeds of change. UM-MM-237]]]]

Thank you Bob

Ok I will peruse MM some more - yes I do vaguely remember iON bringing MM through on Cashflow - but I believe it was brief without much insight at that time or questioning - Carolyn agrees to keep iON active in a joyous environment so that he may continue to reveal such intriguing information -

a) iON is about "percepts" (direct experience) not "concepts" (researchable "material"). Therefore, we would urge for (as in allow, disclose) on going visual, audio, testimony of the rapid changing environment in which we create - in other words document the transformation process of mere mortals embracing their God-hood (i.e. catipillar turns into a butterfly)

So..... It matters not who said what or how or when 1st. The 1st position is only the illusion of a public persona opinion others may have of you. and it is you who makes you boxed-in that 1st place position.
All will come to know and actualize their power of "You are God"
It is irrelevant how one arrives.
The seventh inning begins.
Step up to the plate.
The bases are loading up.
Hit Your Grand Slam Home Run!
Be the GOD you are in the reality that is yours.
Being Forever expanding. The extendor that is You.

xoxo