Dupes of Non-Physical

BOB: Yes, "space" (timing, or the Horizontal Symbolist School) is gone, too.

This is the issue/concern Frank Zappa probed... and Carolyn, JW, and myself resolved.


Bob Neveritt

After we've digested and assimilated the the "Guff" ...
The "Mystery Body" will yet be an Eternal Mystery.

illuminating! THX

But is iON going to back-peddle out of the timing thing?

Now you sign your psuedo name Neveritt ? - when all along you have promulgated this every thought from almost an infant - your nothing more that another charlaton- prove your wares; otherwise you leave mortal man as a guinea pig to those who are most vindictive

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You mean Carolyn, JW, and yourself resolved that issue privately in the acts of evoking and then engaging with iON? Or is there a resolution/formula that you are going to share with others? Or is it by virtue of the fact that there's nothing to 'get'?

Re: The Time vs. Space issue is touched on in this quote from Time & Western Man, by Wyndham Lewis:
"An obsession with the temporal scale, a feverish regard for the niceties of fashion, a sick anxiety directed to questions of time and place (that is, of fashion and of milieu), appears to be the psychological concomitant of the possession of a time-theory that denies time as its normal reality. The fashionable mind is par excellence the time-denying mind—that is the paradox.

This is, however, not so strange if you examine it. The less reality you attach to time as a unity, the less you are able instinctively to abstract it; the more important concrete, individual, or personal time becomes."

and from the same text, with regard to "self":
"The less you are able to realize other people, the more your particular personality will obsess you, and the more dependent upon its reality you will be. The more you insist on it with a certain frenzy. And the more ‘individualist’ you are in this sense, the less ‘individualist’ you will be in the ordinary political sense. You will have achieved a fanatical hegemony with your unique self-feeling. "

Chad

BOB: Yes, "space" (timing, or the Horizontal Symbolist School) is gone, too.

This is the issue/concern Frank Zappa probed... and Carolyn, JW, and myself resolved.

Tayzay: what EXACTLY has been resolved amongst the 3 of you?

xoxo

BOB: No, iON doesn't have to.

I'm pointing out the depth of iON's meaning and use of "timing" - how it relates to "tactility" which is not referring to a particular sense but the interplay of the senses, and how it relates to a non-visual meaning of "duality".

Wyndham Lewis is a very good guide on these excavations.


Bob Neveritt

BOB: As the Mystery Landscape is more readily noticed, it will become a matter of artfully and vigorously playing with the premises of "TIME" and "SPACE".


Bob Neveritt

BOB: Good to see you're reading Lewis, Chad.

When McLuhan was asked where he got "it" from, he answered: "Wyndham Lewis".

By the way, McLuhan met Lewis in July, 1943, in the Detroit (U.S.A.)-Windsor (Canada) area.

Neither of them was fighting in the war.


Bob Neveritt

BOB: The following is what iON said (not recorded but typed by Carolyn - we can't say these are the exact words but iON later said we could make the transcript more precise with iON's recall/help [we haven't done that, yet - BOB] - when I asked JW (after the 3 of us had been silent for 30 seconds) the question (according to iON - I can't remember what I asked since I wasn't taking the experiment that seriously), "Who's speaking?":

{{March 18/09

It is the process with which is between the 3 of us which is our experience.

You alluded to it several times last night - the process of which where others were doing this psychic work. [I had been talking to JW about my experiences with the Evergreens the night before - BOB]

The gist of this process that’s opening is that there seems to be more of a tactile experience of the change in the veil. Turning inside out. Which means, what we know that is, is not and what we know that is not, is.

We are just now coming to a place of resolution.

Parallels to the resolute desk in the White House. British ship lost a couple hundred years ago. Queen Victoria had two desks made out of the ship: one in White House, one in Buckingham Palace.
It means something different to those in power than tourists.

Feeds a little of a conspiracy theory.

The information we are getting access to; they already know it.

Might have gone into it last night but had to clear and make sure we were OK.

Gist of this process is a simple process, it’s easy, it’s fluid, like the viscosity of oil and water… but you can make vinaigrette very painlessly. Indeed these realms do mix, fluidly. That’s why it’s so significant, once you know, you can never go back.

Now you have a whole new vernacular, which has to do with “carnal” knowledge of this new expression of reality - you are getting it fast. Cursing as you are blessing. Past that, it’s getting much, much, much easier. Lou Dobbs is very upset about this.… Using him as a silly example… of the main part of the android meme.... [there follows another couple of hours transcribed - BOB]}}

Pretty neat, eh?... considering that these themes have been subsequently probed in depth by all of us over the past year.

Carolyn, JW, and myself had no idea what iON was saying on this first day.

We sure do now!!


Bob Neveritt