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Enochville · **Joined:** August 15th, 2010, 9:39 am **Posts:** 16

Ion, At first I heard that all souls went to and from the guf. Now I hear all souls stay here. Can you clarify?
Thank you.

Margarita · **Joined:** May 8th, 2010, 10:19 pm **Posts:** 105

I'm not iON but i can help. How I understand it that the essence of your unrealized creations go the the guf, and your soul which keeps a record of your human experience which also carries your feelings and emotions, stays here as residue or some people call it ghosts. (if you decide to transition) :geek:

Maybe others can add up here.

Love Always
margarita

iON · **Joined:** April 22nd, 2010, 10:09 pm **Posts:** 1661

Margarita wrote:

I'm not iON but i can help. How I understand it that the essence of your unrealized creations go the the guf, and your soul which keeps a record of your human experience which also carries your feelings and emotions, stays here as residue or some people call it ghosts. (if you decide to transition) :geek:

Maybe others can add up here.

Love Always
margarita

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Enochville · **Joined:** August 15th, 2010, 9:39 am **Posts:** 16

Thank you for clearing it up for me. Isn't Ion engaging us from the guf?

Love you all,
Enochville

higherlight · **Joined:** April 24th, 2010, 6:50 pm **Posts:** 115

Yes, this subject needs cleaning up....Bob keeps saying souls go to the guff, but iON has said the guff is only reserved for Non-Physical and souls are seperate from Non-Physical. Souls. iON also says souls are residue that stick "around" earth. However, that is exactly where 'Heaven' is located near the earth. I understand that's why souls and we as souls have a strong desire to be a human on Earth so we can maintain our God-Self, or Non-Physical that makes perfect sense.

I'd like to point out for the second time that when and if we transition we are left with our SOUL not the Non-Physical.

Mattrose · **Joined:** July 20th, 2010, 10:06 pm **Posts:** 74

I'm not going back to the guf.

rhyee · **Joined:** April 21st, 2010, 1:33 pm **Posts:** 1018

higherlight wrote:

Yes, this subject needs cleaning up....Bob keeps saying souls go to the guff,

BOB: I don't say that. I've said many times, quoting iON, that our souls DO NOT go to the Guf. Our souls stay here around "Earth".

but iON has said the guff is only reserved for Non-Physical and souls are seperate from Non-Physical.

BOB: Yes, that's what I have said many times.

Souls. iON also says souls are residue that stick "around" earth.

BOB: Yes, that's what iON says.

However, that is exactly where 'Heaven' is located near the earth.

BOB: Not exactly. There is much on this in the iONic discussions of the later chapters of the Book of Revelations. Brian and Larry can comment on this - they've actually listened to all the iON sessions on Revelations.

I understand that's why souls and we as souls have a strong desire to be a human on Earth so we can maintain our God-Self, or Non-Physical that makes perfect sense.

BOB: Our God-Self is NOT the Non-Physical. iON says that thanks to the FALL, humans created the Guf because they wanted to leave the eternal PHYSICAL (many worlds). When we return/remember pre-"FALL" conditions, we will IGNORE our souls' incessant recording of our experiences in the Physical. That recording will be irrelevant... unless we CHOOSE to create a Guf again.

I'd like to point out for the second time that when and if we transition we are left with our SOUL not the Non-Physical.

BOB: This is accurate if you mean it as I (quoting iON) type above. But I could interpret your last sentence as erroneous since you seem to emphasize the "SOUL" too much.

Before the "Fall" the Non-Physical IS the Physical (many worlds). iON says that has been the case all along for those not affected by the Fall - "Melchizedek" et al.

iON says we are now given the opportunity (because of the "thinning of the veil" so DESIRED by humans right now) to retrieve the lifestyle of Melchizedek for ourselves.

It's now: THE SOUL DOESN'T GET OUT OF HERE ALIVE!!... rather than the old "NOBODY GETS OUT OF HERE ALIVE!!".

Bob Neveritt

rhyee · **Joined:** April 21st, 2010, 1:33 pm **Posts:** 1018

Mattrose wrote:

I'm not going back to the guf.

BOB:

http://www.wildriverreview.com/Column/T ... rt-2/10-09

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=358

Bob Neveritt

Enochville · **Joined:** August 15th, 2010, 9:39 am **Posts:** 16

Anyone have any thoughts on why we have always been told that our souls go to heaven? What were the benefits to this, and to whose benefit? Also, I heard on the radio show that during the coming earth changes, a lot of folks transition, some stay here. Ion said something about a sort of tidal shift influx into the guf that will send a lot of folks back here immortal. So it's the essence of unrealised creations that will be coming back immortal?

love you all,
Enochville

rhyee · **Joined:** April 21st, 2010, 1:33 pm **Posts:** 1018

Enochville wrote:

Anyone have any thoughts on why we have always been told that our souls go to heaven? What were the benefits to this, and to whose benefit? Also, I heard on the radio show that during the coming earth changes, a lot of folks transition, some stay here. Ion said something about a sort of tidal shift influx into the guf that will send a lot of folks back here immortal. So it's the essence of unrealised creations that will be coming back immortal?

love you all,
Enochville

BOB: This 10-min. excerpt gives the basics of the framework for iON's "agenda":

http://www.howionic.com/about-us.aspx

Once you've listened to this carefully, then I'd be interested in what questions would be evoked in you. It would help us figure out what is not clear yet in that audio.

Bob Neveritt

Dupes of Non-Physical

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