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PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 7:34 pm 
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question Bart ? have you or do you attempt to explain what you've just written to anyone other than here ?

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The short answer is no.

I might entertain the notion, but my approach is to only respond
as iON does, "They have to ask; and we will respond at the level
of their asking".

Now, having said that, I have shared all of my insights and findings
over the past three or four years (pre-iON) with my brother, which
were mostly ufo / ET, or anomaly related (and which included photo
and video backup).

He was open to this stuff, and I hadn't really had anyone with whom
to share my experiences.

He's been pretty impressed and excited for things to get weird and
change, but he has limits.

My last conversation with him about this shift was pre-iON, but, in
hindsight, could easily segue into iON material.

I can't remember exactly how I started it, but I sort of used the
2012 phenomenon and my "research" as a pretext to say that the
shift that all of this 2012 stuff is pointing to is actually energetic in
nature; that the fabric of our reality was shifting / changing.

He smiled and appeared to be listening, but who the hell knows. haah
He cut the conversation short, so I've dropped it.

If you do some looking, you can find some scientific evidence to back
this "energetic shift" conversation. Wilcock has a fair amount of
material.

It's a starting place, at least...

In this regard, you can discuss how these new energies are affecting
us and the planet at a fundamental level, and are actually affecting
what we took as immutable natural "laws", as well as our physical
makeup.

That is, if you wish to engage others on this subject matter.

I haven't mentioned a word to my brother about the iON situation,
because it takes a different sort of openness.

It's one thing to be open to ufos / ETs / 2012, etc., but this experience
requires a whole different level of engagement and openness.

"Only Serious Applicants Need Apply."


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"Only Serious Applicants Need Apply."

Luci (psychiatric help) to Charlie Brown (patient):
Charlie speaking: "Doctor, my dog is going nuts talking about some weird kinda stuff going on like flying ufo's, ET's, and something about anomalies. whatever that means. Every night lying at the top of his dog house he barks and hounds with his nose pointing to the skies as if some weird phenomena is about to explode on earth. Doctor, do you think my dog is having some sort of cosmic breakdown with all this gossip of 2012 in the air?.

Luci speaking to Charlie: "Well Charlie, it seems to me that something very weird is going on inside his dog brain. Because of the sensitive nature of this material, seems like this would require an entire different level of engagement and openness. My advice to you Charlie Brown is to have a session with Mr. ION. He is the only one in this moment on this planet that would be able to get right to the nuts and bolts of this strange and weird phenomena."

Charlie speaking: "Doctor, would you have Mr. Ion's # so that I may schedule an appointment?".

Luci speaking: "Charlie, I'll email Bob Dobbs right away as he is the only source getting in touch with Mr. ION".

Charlie speaking: "Thanks Doctor, I feel much better knowing that we may have a solution to the problem".

Luci speaking: "Charlie, that will be 5 cents please?". :roll:


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.5 cents ? try 50 bucks for Bible interpretations and 100 bucks for iON engagements (sessions) - if there even still available - Bob now babbles in vain arguing for his limitations - regurgitating a catholic scoffer (McLuhan) as if somehow that will validate his travels or is that travails -and iON remains aloof - or in pursuit - or out of sight at this time - .5 cents please

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out of site out of mind
only until January 18th.....
ION will reappear

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That's right. I cant wait to hear what they are experimenting with in parallel worlds. Which makes me wonder if I am in a parallel world now to see how iON will work in the real world! He he!


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Indralady wrote:
Just wondering reasons why.

Julian Assange
Joe Rogan
Michael Tsarion


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isn't Joe Rogan a comedian ?

Hey Bart do you have a take on this guy ?- he's moving his energy with his intentions - he's busting (dispersing) these clouds by focusing his energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYO88ieCwW0

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Mr. Pixies wrote:
Indralady wrote:
Just wondering reasons why.

Julian Assange
Joe Rogan
Michael Tsarion


rogen is cool but gay


Joe Rogan is a radio show host , The Joe Rogen Experience, he is also a stand up comedian and an actor, I have spent many hours listening to his shows before I became and iONette

He is about to become a father for the second time and about to marry his long term partner so I believe that your information about him being gay is diss information

In any event it is irrelevant whether he is gay or not !


"In 2008, Rogan and his future wife, Jessica, had a baby girl.[21] The couple married in 2009. In 2010, Rogan announced the birth of a second baby. Rogan also has a step daughter with his wife Jessica.[22][23]"


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Jordan Maxwell would like this one lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOoC1E37 ... creen&NR=1

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Mr. Pixies wrote:
Indralady wrote:
Just wondering reasons why.

Julian Assange
Joe Rogan
Michael Tsarion


rogen is cool but gay


It's all playing with words / outer kingdom references.

Everyone on the list perceives and rails against their own phantoms,
and have as much of an affect / effect on the outer kingdom as Don
Quixote (quixotic) did with his windmills.

Trying or expecting to effect some sort of change the outer kingdom
is starting with a false premise.

One cannot have an affect / effect on another person, let alone the
social matrix at large.

And, Legend, this goes for the guy in your video link.

It's not that there's anything wrong with what he's saying, but what's
he got to do with me (and you)? Nothing.

He's simply someone "out there", making a video, and speaking to his
own projection of the outer kingdom.

If some of what he's saying / experiencing resonates with someone, it's
only useful if that person requires validation - from the outer kingdom.

The outer kingdom is an image, and an afterimage at that.

The starting place of giving attention / notice to the outer kingdom is
the beginning of a rabbit hole experience.

What you see isn't real, and what you can't see is real.

It's where we leave our experience of the here and now and become
embroiled in projections and images, and that always ends in tears.

The folks getting tangled up in events in the world at large are literally
fighting / railing / struggling against their own images of what they say
exists beyond their immediate experience (if we only knew how vastly
different these projections were...).

This endeavor (wanting to change, or wake up the world) is doomed
from the word go.

This is where I've appreciated Bob's / McLuhan's observations; namely,
that the only real mechanic that shapes and affects "culture" is the
ground of technology / the media itself, much to the consternation of
the ruling authority (who may or may not realize this is a factor).

Most of the world at large / outer kingdom, aren't aware that they have
a null effect on the matrix, and are simply relegated to watching this
beautiful mess unfold, as nature dictates (try as they might to push
against it).

We can't touch the outer kingdom in any real, meaningful way. It's just
a hologram that shifts as we approach it.

It's like that dream hallway that keeps getting longer the faster you run
down it.

It's just this great movie playing outside of our immediate experience.

If we pick a specific element or person from that movie and decide to
approach it, then we've invited it into our immediate experience, but
the nature of the outer kingdom movie itself is that it is an unreachable
facet of our experience.

Part of the folly of the notion of surrendering our power to an outside
object, person or authority is that it was considered possible.

This is the superficiality of this surrender. We have to continue to
reinforce this false supposition for it to work.

As soon as we realize the superficiality - that it requires our cooperation
throughout, it fails; we then withdraw and dissolve this projection, and
take responsibility (and our power) from the object of that projection.

Is there a White House? Yes. Can you walk up and touch it? Yes.

If you really wanted to, you could look really, really closely at it through
a powerful microscope, and see that it's just as much of a phantasm
of energy as our collective fictions.

One should see the pointlessness of that endeavor, before considering
it, however.

It's a nice building a few miles from where I am, but everything we've
built up around that structure is a collective charade that has ended.

Again, what we're witnessing is the fading afterimage of a matrix that is
running on fumes.

This / these governments are going to change form, and then just disappear
entirely. Watch.

I like Bob's comments from maybe a year ago, that Obama was merely an
image. He appears on the technology, speaks a few words and disappears.

We can't respond to that image, it just appears, speaks and vanishes. It's
an advertisement.

This is our experience of government. Our municipalities are a separate
fabrication, and will go when everything else does.

We are literally seeing, in slow motion, the breakdown / dissipation of all of
the disempowering charades we created for ourselves, collectively, ages
ago.

They never really were real, save for our collective decision to perpetuate
these messes.

An example of this unapproachable environment is the Occupy movement,
where the folks were just sitting in Manhattan's Financial District, hoping
to affect / effect some sort of response, or change.

As Bob said, the real financial heart was several miles away in, I believe,
New Jersey; but even if these folks decided to go there, the result is the
same - null.

The title (and premise) of the Youtube video is meaningless.

I'm sure I can speak for Bob, saying he'd be happy to put his own name
on the list, because the position - any position is ridiculous.

Bob's happy to play around with these images.

Remember, Bob did say he represents the overlapping of the 99%ers
and 1%ers. He's generously guiding the 99%ers...to where remains to
be seen. hahah

Doesn't matter, anyway.

Doesn't matter to Bob, and what Bob does certainly shouldn't matter to
us.

I realize the latter statement appears a slippery slope, because we are
enjoying Bob's insights and creations: iON, the drops, cold fusion-to-be, etc.,
but those are outer kingdom potentialities that each of us, individually,
magnetized to ourselves to experience.

Bob (and iON) is no different to anyone outside of Bob than an outer kingdom
image. Again, unless you've magnetized the exchanges to your middle kingdom
experience for your pleasure and benefit.

The act of magnetizing an outer kingdom (or any) potentiality into your middle
kingdom is different than surrendering your power (e.g., feeling less-than) to
an image of Bob / iON, or any other outer kingdom person or item.

The magnetizing / creating we do is through speaking, and speaking alone.

This brings elements / potentialities of the outer kingdom into your middle
kingdom experience; and this is different than hoping to affect the outer
kingdom.

One trick here might be to try to go over your own current experiences,
including engaging the iON situation here, and trying to backtrack and see
exactly what brought this experience into your middle kingdom.

I can see see, in general, that a lot of what I was enthusiastically verbalizing
about the shift / what I saw as imminent could be said to have drawn /
magnetized the iON potentiality into my experience.

I wonder how many others, however, have such a clear correlation /
related resonance pattern in their utterances preceding their iON experience.

I'm not congratulating myself here.

And, observing that I've verbalized some of what iON's been sharing before I
engaged this situation doesn't mean that there aren't any other myriad
utterances or statements (speaking) others may have made that has drawn
iON into their experiences.

What I mean by this is, I would bet you'd be hard pressed to take hold of your past
experiences, generate a pattern and use that as a scientific algorithm (as Chad
has shared) to generate predicted outcomes again and again; to attribute to yourself
some sort of obvious control.

More to the point, Bob stated at some point that it's almost luck that we've stumbled
upon this situation.

That notion could be explored, if only as a reflection on our perceived lack of
involvement in this whole process; as much as we know, or are being led to believe
at the moment, we were / are involved.

This knowing / knewing place is an experience-to-be, so for the moment, for
convenience sake, luck applies as much as anything else.

Just wanted to relate this notion of control / aware involvement at even a personal
level.

No harm, no foul, and no less-than-ness implied or suggested. It's a process.

We do shit now, which we're getting glimpses of, we had no idea we were doing,
so it's all good.

We don't have to force a knowing right now, because on some level we already
know and it's working out fine. Forcing wouldn't work, anyway. As iON has said,
"Do you have to remember to breathe?"

This full awareness and knowing of all aspects of our engagement will come, but
it's a process. Consider it autonomic.

It will all come out in the wash. The "Heroes of Humanity" might not get this. We do.

The only position of power is to realize this, and to relax into one's own place in
all of this.

iON says, "Don't think". This is obviously simplistic, and a rule, but it's a good
starting place.

If anything, consider unhooking your wagon from the time / date / calendar
thing, and overlay that with the resonance / freakency perspective.

2012? You're swimming in it. And there are no lifeguards. We don't need 'em.
We already knew how to swim.


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